INTERVIEW WITH FEMALE REPTILIAN LACERTA BEING FROM SPACESHIP CUBE INSIDE PLANET EARTH.

BOSANSKI - HRVATSKI - SRBSKI JEZIK 

 
DATE OF INTERVIEW December 16, 1999.
 
Question: First of all, who and what are you? Are you an alien species or can your origins be found on this planet Earth?
 
Answer: As you can see with your own eyes I am not a human being like you and to be honest, I am not a true mammal (despite my partially similar mammalian body features, which are the result of evolution.) I am also a female reptilian being, belonging to a very ancient reptilian race. . We are natives and have lived on this planet Earth for millions of years. They are mentioned in your religious writings in the Christian Bible and many ancient human tribes were aware of our presence and worshiped us as gods, for example the Egyptians and the Incas and many other ancient tribes. Your Christian religion has misunderstood our role in your creation, so we are referred to in your writings as the "evil serpent". This is not right.
 
Your race was genetically modified by aliens, and we were only more or less passive visitors to this accelerated process of evolution. You must know (some of your scientists have already guessed this) that your species evolved naturally at a completely impossible rate within only 2-3 million years. This is absolutely impossible, because evolution is a much slower process if it is natural, but you have not understood that.
 
Your creation was artificially engineered through genetic engineering, not by us, but by an alien species.
 
If you ask me, am I an alien, I have to say no. We are native-Terrans. We had and have some colonies in the solar system, but we come from this planet Earth which is actually our planet, not yours - it was never yours.
 
Question: Can you tell me your name?
 
Answer: This is difficult, because your human language is incapable of pronouncing it correctly (and mispronouncing our names is very offensive to some of my kind.) Our language is very different from yours, but my name is — I'll try to make it easier say it using your human letters — something like "Sssshiaassshakkkasskkhhhshhh" with a very, very strong pronunciation of the "sh" and "k" sounds. We do not have names like you, but only one, but unique name which is divided and characterized by the way of speaking and which is not given to children (who have their own children's name) but only by special procedure in older age at the time of either religious or scientific "enlightenment" or consciousness (as they would call it.) I would appreciate it if you wouldn't try to say my real name in your human language. Please call me "Lacerta", this is the name I usually use when I'm on planet Earth surface, around people and talking to them.
 
Question: How old are you?
 
Answer: We measure time not like you in astronomical years and in the rotation of the Earth around the Sun, because we usually live below the surface of the planet Earth and the measurement of the flow of time depends on the periodically returning cycles in the magnetic field of the planet Earth and according to this (and according to your numbers) I am today — let me do the math — 57,653 cycles old. I reached my adult stage and my consciousness 16,337 cycles ago (this is a very important date for us.) According to your human time scale I am about 28 years old.
 
Question: What is your task? Do you have a "job" like us?
 
Answer: To put it in your own words: I am a curious student of the social behavior of your species on the surface of planet Earth. That's why I'm here talking to you, that's why I've revealed my true nature EF, and now to you, and that's why I'm giving you all this secret information and why I'll try to answer all the questions on your many sheets of paper honestly.
 
I will see how you will react, how your others will react. There are so many lunatics and liars of your kind on this planet earth who claim to know the truth about us, about UFOs, about aliens and so on, and some of you believe their lies.
I'm curious how your species will react if the truth (which I'm about to tell you) is revealed. I'm quite sure that everyone will refuse to believe my words, but I hope I'm wrong, because you have to understand if you want to survive the coming years.
 
Question: I've read your full statement (given to EF) on this, but can you just give me a short answer now: are UFOs real flying objects piloted by aliens or do they belong to your species?
 
Answer: Some observed UFOs - as you call them - belong to us, but most do not.
Most "mysterious" flying objects in the sky are not technological devices, but mostly misinterpretations of natural phenomena that your scientists don't understand (like spontaneous plasma flashes in the high atmosphere).

However, some UFOs are real craft belonging to your species (especially your military) or other alien species or finally us (but a minority of visible craft really belong to us, as we are generally very careful with our movements in the atmosphere and have special ways to hide their ships.)

CIGAR UFO PHOTOS

  

  

 

  

CIGAR UFO PHOTOS

If you read the sighting report of a metallic light gray cylindrical cigar-length object—there are different types—let me say between 20 and 260 meters from you and did this object make a very deep humming sound and if the metal there were 5 bright red lights on the surface of the cigar (one at the top, one in the middle, two at the end) then it is likely that one of you has seen one of our aircraft - ships and that means that it is either partially broken or that one of us was not careful enough. We also have a very small fleet of disc-shaped craft, but such UFOs are usually of an alien species.
 


Triangular UFOs mostly belong to your military, but use foreign technology to make them. If you really want to try to see one of our craft, you should be looking at the skies over the Arctic, Antarctic, and Inner Asia (especially over their mountains.)
 
Question: Do you have a special symbol or something by which we can identify your species?

 

Ouroboros with seven stars on tombstone.

 

 

The symbol described by Lacerta in Interview Lacerta I, question 6, matches the symbol of Chanuphis presented in WR Cooper's The Serpent Myths of Ancient Egypt   (1873).

According to William Ricketts Cooper, the four wings are symbolic of the "four corners of the Earth".

 
Answer: We have two main symbols that represent our species. One (older) symbol is a blue snake with four white wings on a black background (colors have religious meaning for us.) This symbol was used in certain parts of my society, but is very rare today - you people have it described very often in your old writings.

 
 

 

 

The second symbol is a mystical being that the inhabitants of the surface of the planet Earth call "Dragon" in the shape of a circle with seven white stars in the middle. This symbol is much more common today.

If you see one of those symbols on the cylindrical craft I described in my previous answer or on some underground installation, this thing or place definitely belongs to us (and I would advise you to leave that place as soon as possible.)
 
Question: Seven stars in the second symbol that you mentioned, do they mean Pleiades?
 
Answer: Pleiades? No. In fact, the seven stars are planets and moons and they are symbolic of our former seven colonies in the solar system. The stars are shown in front of a blue background, and the dragon's circle indicates the shape of the planet Earth (Crnojević's coat of arms). The seven white stars mean the Moon, Mars, Venus and the 4 moons of Jupiter and Saturn, which we colonized in the past. Two colonies are no longer in use and abandoned, and that would be more accurate 5 stars.
 
Question: Since you did not allow me to take your photos - which would be very useful to prove your real existence and the truth of this story - could you describe yourself in more detail?
 
Answer: I know it would be helpful to prove the veracity of this interview if you could take some photos of me. By the way, you people are very suspicious (that's good for us and for the real extraterrestrial species that secretly operate on this planet earth. And if you had such photos, many of your kind would say that they are a FRAUD that I'm just a human woman in disguise or something similar (that would be very offensive to me.) You must understand that I cannot give you permission to take photos of me or my equipment.There
 
are several reasons for this, which I do not want to discuss with you further, but one of the reasons is to protect our privacy existence, the other reason is more religious. However, you have permission to make drawings of my appearance and equipment that I can show you later. because automatically denying the existence of reptilian species and intelligent species other than yours is part of your mind programming.Well, I'll try.


Imagine the body of a normal human woman and at first you have a good idea of ​​my body. Like you, I have a head, two arms, two hands, two legs and two feet, and my body proportions are like yours. Being a female, I also have two breasts (despite our reptilian origins, we started giving milk to our babies during the process of evolution - this happened about 30 million years ago - because it is the best thing to keep the young alive. Evolution did it for your species as early as the age of the dinosaurs and - a little later - for ours. This does not mean that we are now real mammals), but our breasts are not as large as the size of a human woman. Of these it is generally the same for every woman of my kind.
 
The external reproductive organs of both sexes are smaller than humans, but they are visible and have the same function as yours (another gift of evolution to our species).

My skin is mostly a greenish-beige color - more pale green - and we have some patterns of brown irregular dots (each dot 1-2 centimeters in size) on the skin and on the face (the patterns are different for both sexes, but women have more, especially on the lower part body and on the face.) In my case you can see them as two lines over the eyebrows crossing my forehead, on the cheek and on the chin. My eyes are slightly larger than human eyes (for this reason we can see better in the dark) and are usually dominated by large black pupils, which are surrounded by a small bright green iris (males have a dark green iris).

The pupil is slit and can change its size from a small black line to a wide open egg-shaped oval, because our retina is very sensitive to light and the pupil has to match it.

We have outer round ears, but they are smaller and not as curved as yours, but we can hear better because our ears are more sensitive to sound (we can also hear a wider range of sound). There is a muscle or "flap" over the ears that can close them completely (under water, for example).
 
Our nose is more pointed, and there is a V-shaped curvature between the nostrils, which allowed our ancestors to "see" and sense the surrounding temperature. We have lost most of these abilities, but we can still feel temperature much better with this "organ".
 
Our lips are shaped like yours (the female ones are slightly larger than the male ones), but they are pale brown in color, and our teeth are very white and strong and a little longer and sharper than your soft mammal teeth.
 
We don't have different hair colors like you (but there is a tradition to dye hair at different ages) and the original color is — like mine — greenish brown. Our hair is thicker and stronger than yours and grows very slowly. Besides, the head is the only part of our body where we have hair.
 
Our body, arms and legs are similar in shape and size to yours, but it is a different color (green-beige, like the face) and there are scale-like structures on the upper legs (above the knees) and upper arms (above the elbows).
 
Our five fingers are a bit longer and thinner than human fingers and our palm skin is plain so we don't have lines like you, but again a combination of scale-like skin structure and brown dots (both sexes have palm dots) and we don't have fingerprints like you. If you touch my skin, you will feel that it is smoother than your hairy skin.
 
On the upper side of both middle fingers there are small sharp horns. Nails are gray and generally longer than yours. You can see that my nails are not so long and round at the tip. That's because I'm female. Males have sharp pointed nails sometimes 5 or 6 centimeters long.
 
The following feature is very different from your body and is part of our reptilian origins: if you touch the back of my upper body, you will feel a hard bony line through my clothing.

This is not my spine, but a very difficult to form external plate structure of skin and tissue that follows exactly our spine from head to hip. In this structure and in the plates (about two or three centimeters long in size) there are an extremely large number of nerves and large blood vessels that are sensitive to touch - this is the reason why we always have trouble sitting in chairs with a back like this chair.)
 
The main task of these small plates (besides their role in our sexuality) is simply to regulate our body temperature and if we sit in natural or artificial sunlight, these plates become fuller with blood and the vessels become wider and the sun can warm our reptoid blood (which circulates through the body and through the plates) by several degrees and it gives us great satisfaction.

 
Question: What else is different from your kind?
 
Answer: Oh, we don't have a navel, because we were born in a different way than you were born. Other external differences compared to your kind are small and I don't think I can mention them all now, because most of them are not visible if we wear clothes. I hope the description of my body was detailed enough. I would advise you to make some drawings.
 
Question: What kind of clothes do you usually wear? I take it this isn't how you usually dress?
 
Answer: No, I only wear these human everyday clothes when I'm around people. To be honest, I'm not really comfortable wearing such tight things and it always feels very strange. If we are in our own home (that is, in our underground home) or in our large artificial sun areas and if we are together with others near our name, we are usually naked.
 
Is this shocking to you? When we are out in public, and along with many others of my kind, we wear very loose and soft clothes made of thin, light materials. I told you that many parts of our body are very sensitive to touch, mainly the small back panels, so we can't feel comfortable in tight clothes because it can hurt us. Men and women often wear the same type of clothing, but the colors are different for the sexes.
 
Question: You said "the second one near your name". You mean your family?
 
Answer: No, not really. You would call it "family," but by this word you mean only those of your kind who belong together genetically like father or mother and child. As I said before, we have a very difficult and unique name.
The pronunciation part of that name is absolutely unique and there is no other being with the same name, but part of this name (the middle part) is pronounced in a way to tell others which "family" (I have to use the word, because you don't have the right one in your dictionary) you belong to . This does not mean that everyone in that group is genetically related to you, because those groups are usually very large and contain between 40 and 70 of us. This group mostly includes your genetic relationships - unless one of them chooses to leave this group - and your bond with your father and mother is often the strongest. It would be too difficult for me to explain to you now our very old social system which is very complex and would take us many hours just for the primary things. Maybe we can meet another time and I can give you detailed descriptions of all these things.
 
Question: Do you have a tail like normal reptiles?
 
Answer: Do you see one? No, we don't have a visible tail. If you look at our skeleton, there is only a small rounded bone at the end of our spine behind the pelvis. This is a useless remnant of the tail of our ancestors, but it is not visible from the outside. Oh, our embryos have tails during the first months of development, but those tails disappear before they are born. A tail only makes sense for a primitive species that tries to walk on two legs and has to balance with its tail, but our skeleton has changed during evolution and our spine is almost the same shape as yours, so we don't need a tail to stay on two legs.
 
Question: You said you were born in a different way than us. Do you lay eggs?
 
Answer: Yes, but not like your birds or primitive reptiles. In fact, the embryo grows in a protein fluid in the mother's womb, but around it there is also an egg-shaped but very thin crust of chalk, which fills the entire uterus. The embryo inside this hull is completely separated from the mother's body and has all the substance it needs to develop inside this chalky hull. There is also a umbilical cord that connects to a point hidden behind the back panels. When the baby is about to be born, the whole egg is pushed through the vagina covered with a slimy protein substance and after a few minutes the child comes out of this soft egg. These two horns on our middle fingers are instinctively used by babies to break through the chalk hull and take their first breath. Our young are not as big as your babies when they are born, they are between 30 and 35 centimeters tall, the egg is about 40 centimeters (this is because our vagina is smaller than a human's) but we grow to a normal size of 1.60 to 1 ,80 meters.
 
Question: What about your body temperature? You said you enjoy lying in the sun. What effect does this have on your body?
 
Answer: We are not mammals and as reptiles our body temperature depends on the temperature of our environment. If you touch my hand, you may feel that it is colder than yours, because our normal body temperature is about 30 to 33 degrees Celsius. If we sit in the sun (especially bare and with our array of little back panels in the sun), our body temperature can rise by 8 or 9 degrees within minutes. This growth causes the production of many enzymes and hormones in our body, our heart and brain and every organ becomes more active and we feel beautiful very very good. You humans just enjoy the sun, but for us it's the greatest pleasure you can imagine (maybe like your sexual arousal.) We also enjoy bathing in very warm water or other liquids to raise our body temperature. If we are in the shade for a few hours, the temperature returns to 30 to 33 degrees. It can't harm us, but we feel much better in the sun. We have artificial sunrooms underground, but it is not the same as real sun for us.
 
Question: What do you eat?
 
Answer: Generally various things like you: meat, fruits, vegetables, special types of mushrooms (from underground farms) and other things. We can also eat and digest some substances that are toxic to you. The main difference between you and us is that we have to eat meat, because our body needs protein. We can't live completely vegetarian like your species because our digestion would stop working and we'd die after a few weeks or maybe months without meat. Many of us eat raw meat or other things that you would find disgusting. Personally, I prefer cooked meat and surface fruits like apples or oranges.
 
Question: Can you tell me something about the natural history and evolution of your species? How old is your species? Did you evolve from primitive reptiles like mankind evolved from apes?
 
Answer: Oh, this is a very long and complex story and it certainly sounds incredible to you, but it is true. I will try to explain it briefly. About 65 million years ago, many of our undeveloped dinosaur ancestors died in a major global cataclysm.
 
The reason for this destruction was not a natural disaster - an asteroid impact as your scientists falsely believe - but a war between two hostile alien groups that took place mainly in the orbit and high atmosphere of your planet.
 
According to our limited knowledge of the early days, this global war was the first alien war on planet earth, but it was definitely not the last (and the future war is coming soon, while the "cold war" - as you call it - between alien groups has been going on since the last 73 years on your planet.)
 
The opponents in this 65 million year old war were two advanced alien species, both of whose names are again unpronounceable in your language. I can pronounce them, but it would hurt your ear if I told you the names in their original way.
 
One race was humanoid like your species (but much older) and was from this universe, from a star system in the constellation of stars you call "Procion" on your maps today.
 
The other species - which we don't know as much about - was a reptilian species, but they have nothing to do with our own species, as we evolved from local saurians without outside influence (other than successful manipulation of our own genes by us. More on that later.)
 
Advanced Reptilian the species did not come from this universe, but from - well, how can I explain it to you. Your scientists have not really understood the true nature of the universe, because your illogical mind is unable to see the simplest things and relies on faulty mathematics and numbers.
 
This is part of the genetic programming of your species that I will get to later. Let me tell you that you are almost as far from understanding the universe as you were 500 years ago.
 
To use an expression you may understand: the other species did not come from this universe, but from another "bubble" in the foam of the Higher Universe.
 
You might call it another dimension, but this is not the right word to describe it properly (by the way, the term dimension is generally wrong, the way you understand it.) The fact that you should remember is that advanced species are capable of, to "walk" between the bubbles using - what would you call it - quantum technology and sometimes in special ways just using their mind (my species also had advanced mental abilities compared to your species, but we are unable to do matter/bubble string altering without technology, but other species active on this planet Earth are able and this seems like magic to you as it was to your ancestors.)
 
Back to our history: the first species (humanoids) arrived on planet Earth about 150 years before the reptilians and built some colonies on former continents. There was a large colony on the continent you now call "Antarctica" and another on the continent you now call "Asia".
 
These people lived on planet Earth together with animal saurians without problems. When an advanced reptilian species arrived in this system, the humanoid colonists from "Procion" tried to communicate peacefully, but failed and within months a global war began.
 
You have to understand that both species were interested in this young planet Earth not because of its biology and underdeveloped species, but only for one reason: raw materials, especially copper.
 
To understand this reason, you have to know that copper is a very important material for some advanced species (even today) because - along with some unstable materials - it is able to produce new stable elements if you induce a high electromagnetic field at right angles to a high nuclear field radiation to cause excessive crossing of variable fields.
 
The fusion of copper with other elements in such a magnetic/radiation field chamber can produce a force field of a special nature that is very useful for various technological tasks (but the basis for it is an extremely complex formula that you cannot figure out because of the limitations of your simple mind.)
 
Both species wanted have copper from planet earth and for that reason they fought a not so long war in space and orbit. It seemed that the humanoid species was successful the first time, but in the last battle the reptilians decided to use a powerful experimental weapon - a special type of fusion bomb that should destroy life forms on the planet, but should not damage valuable raw materials and copper.
 
A bomb was fired from outer space and detonated at the point on your planet that you now call "Middle America". As it exploded in the ocean, it produced an unpredictable fusion with hydrogen and the effect was much stronger than the reptilians expected.
 
The result was deadly radiation, overproduction of fusion oxygen, fallout of various elements, and a "nuclear winter" that lasted nearly 200 years.
 
Most of the humanoids were killed, and the reptilians lost interest in the planet after a few years for reasons unknown (even to us) - perhaps due to radiation.
 
Planet Earth was alone again and the animals on the surface died. By the way, one of the results of the fusion bomb is the fallout of various elements and materials created in the combustion process, and one of those materials was iridium.
 
Your human scientists today see the concentration of iridium in the earth as evidence for the asteroid impact that killed the dinosaurs. That's not true, but how do you know?
 
Well, most of the dinosaurs died (not all in the explosion), but in the bad things that happened after the war, especially the nuclear winter and the fallout.) Almost all the dinosaurs and reptiles were dead in the next 20 years. Some of them - especially those in the oceans - could survive for the next 200 to 300 years even in this changed world, but these species also died because the climate changed.
 
The nuclear winter ended after 200 years, but planet Earth was colder than before. Despite the cataclysm, some species managed to survive: fish (like sharks), birds, small creepy mammals (your ancestors), various reptiles like crocodiles, and there was also a special species of small but advanced dinosaurs that evolved along with the last large reptilian animals like the species you call a tyrannosaurus.
 
This new reptile walked on two legs and looked a bit like your iguanodon reconstruction (it came from this family), but was smaller (about 1.50 meters tall) with some humanoid features, altered bone structure, larger skull and brain, a hand with a thumb that could grasp things, a different organism and digestion, advanced eyes in the middle of the head like your eyes and most importantly...with a new and better brain structure.
 
This was our direct ancestor. They have theories that bomb radiation was involved in the mutations of the organism of this new race, but this has not been proven. Nevertheless, this little humanoid dinosaur evolved over the next 30 million years (as I said before, species generally take longer to evolve than you think, unless the evolution is artificially induced as in your case) from an animal to a more or less thinking being. .
 
These creatures were intelligent enough not to die out in the next millions of years because they learned to change their behavior, they lived in caves instead of the cold nature and learned to use stones and branches as their first tools and to use fire to help keep them warm - especially to warm their blood, which is very important for the survival of our species.
 
During the next 20 million years, this species was naturally divided into 27 subspecies (unfortunately, the former reptilian species tended to divide in a more or less illogical way into subspecies during the evolutionary process. You can clearly see this in the unnecessarily large number of animal species of dinosaurs in earlier times) and there were many (mostly primitive) wars between these subspecies for dominance.
 
Well, nature was not very kind to us, and as far as we know, out of 27 subspecies, 24 died out in primitive wars and evolution, because their organism and mind were not developed enough to survive and (as the main reason) they could not properly change the temperature of their blood if the climate changes.
 
50 million years after the war and after the end of the dinosaurs, there are only three (now technologically advanced) reptilian species left on this planet earth along with all the other lower animals. By natural and artificial crossing these three species were merged into one reptilian species and by finding genetic manipulations, we managed to "eliminate" genes prone to divisions in our genetic structure.
 
According to our history and belief, this was the time when our final reptilian race - as you see me today - was created using genetic engineering. That was about 10 million years ago and our evolution pretty much stopped at this point (well, there were actually some minor changes in our appearance towards a more humanoid and mammalian appearance during the following ages, but we didn't subspecies again).
 
You see, we are a very old race compared to your species, who at that time were jumping around like little monkey-like animals in the trees while we invented technology, colonized other planets of this system, built great cities on this planet Earth (which have disappeared without a trace disappeared over the ages) and designed our own genes while your genes were still animal genes.
 
10 million years ago the little apes started to grow and came down from the trees to the ground (again due to climate change - especially in the so-called African continent.) But they evolved very slowly as is normal for human mammals and your kind did not happen nothing out of the ordinary, they wouldn't be able to sit here and talk because I'd be sitting in my comfortable modern house and you'd be sitting in your fur-clad cave trying to discover the secrets of fire - or maybe you'd be sitting in one of our zoos.
 
But things have developed differently and now you believe that you are the "crown of creation" and can sit in a modern house, while we have to hide and live underground and in remote areas.
 
About 1.5 million years ago, another alien species arrived on planet Earth (it was surprisingly the first species after more than 60 million years. This would be more surprising to you if you knew how many different species exist and live here today. )
 
The interest of this humanoid species - today you call them "Illojim" - was not raw materials and copper, they were, to our astonishment, undeveloped humanoid apes.
 
Despite our presence on this planet, the aliens decided to "help" the apes to evolve a little faster, to serve them as a kind of slave race in the coming wars.
 
The fate of your species didn't really matter to us, but we didn't like the presence of the "Illos" on our planet Earth and they didn't like our presence on their new "galactic zoo" planet Earth, so your sixth and seventh creations were the reason for the war between us and them.
 
You can read about that war, for example, in a part of the book you call the "Bible" in a very strange way of description. The real truth is a very long and difficult story. Should I continue?
 
Question: No, not now. I made some notes on your history and now I have some questions.
 
Answer: Ask.
 
Question: First of all, you are working with a very large time scale. You claim that your primitive ancestors lived together with dinosaurs, survived - as you called it - an artificial cataclysm and then evolved over 40 million years, and your evolution ended 10 million years ago. This sounds very incredible to me. Can you say something to this?
 
Answer: I understand that this must sound absolutely incredible to you, as you are a young and genetically modified species. Your historical horizon ends on a scale of only a few thousand years and you think that's right.
 
But it didn't. This is impossible. Your programmed mind is clearly not capable of dealing with such large time scales. Our evolutionary time may seem incredibly long to you, but this is actually nature's original way. Remember, your early mammalian ancestors co-evolved with the dinosaurs and survived the bomb just like us. They slowly evolved over the next millions of years and divided into different species and shapes, some of them larger, some smaller.
 

This is the evolution of the body. But what about their mind and intelligence?
They were simple animals. Mammals have been evolving for - say - 150 million years, but only in the last 2-3 million years have they managed to become intelligent and thinking. And within this small period, beings like you were created. From nature?
 
148 million years of time for the evolution of animal-like mammals, 2 million years of time for the development of (more or less) intelligent beings like you?
 
Ask yourself: Do you really think that this accelerated evolution is natural?
Then your kind are more ignorant than I thought. We didn't evolve wrong, you did.
 
Question: I understand. But I have one more question. You mentioned many facts about the ancient war between aliens 65 million years ago. This happened long before your species became truly intelligent (as far as I understand you). Why do you know so much about that "first war" and about the evolution of your species?
 
Answer: This is a good question (much better than the previous one) and I didn't explain it to you properly. Our knowledge of the first war is entirely from an ancient artifact, which was found about 16,000 years ago by our archaeologists on the continent you now call North America.
 
There they found a round plate about 18 inches in diameter. The plate was made of a magnetic material unknown to us, and inside the plate there was another smaller crystal plate that contained a huge amount of information encoded in the molecular structure of the crystal.
 

This "memory board" was produced from the last surviving bomb of the human race from "Procion" 65 million years ago, but was completely intact when we found it.
Our scientists managed to encode messages and data, and so we heard for the first time about the events that took place in the distant past and led to the extinction of the dinosaurs.
The board contained detailed descriptions of both species (but more on the humanoids) and events and weapons, including a fusion bomb.
It also contained a description of the animals and saurians of the earth, including our pre-intelligent ancestral species. The rest of our knowledge of our evolution comes from skeletons and from reading and decoding our DNA.

 
You see, we know the real truth about our 16,000 year roots. Before that time, it was more of a religious idea about our creation.
 
Question: What happened to both alien species?
 
Answer: We don't know exactly. The surviving humanoids on Earth apparently died in the years after the bomb and others of their kind, and the reptilians never returned to planet Earth (as far as we know). As for the reptilian aliens, there is a possibility that their return was physically impossible, as the matter between the bubbles sometimes moves quickly. The current theory is that both species became extinct over millions of years.
 
Question: You mentioned the skeletons of your species. How is it possible that human scientists have not found any trace of you and your ancestors if you have really lived so long on this planet? We have found many skeletons of primitive dinosaurs, but none of the advanced reptilian creatures with a larger skull and brain and a hand with a thumb as you described earlier.
 
Answer: Yes, it is. But your "great" scientists were not able to reconstruct the skeletons completely, because they wanted to reconstruct reptilian animals, not intelligent beings. They would laugh if they knew how many (especially small) saurian skeletons in your museums are completely wrong constructions of creatures that never existed, because you used a lot of bones that don't really belong together, and sometimes made artificial bones if something was missing to construct a saurian "animal" .
 
Many of your scientists are aware of this problem, but do not bring it to the public, because they cannot explain it and claim that the real bones were just missing and that their reconstruction is correct. Many of our bones were used to reconstruct Iguanodon, for example a hand with a visible thumb (look at an Iguanodon in a museum and you'll see that I'm right.)
 
A scientist in the country you call the United States built an almost thumb-correct skeleton of our species a few years ago, but the local government (which is partially aware of our existence) confiscated the reconstruction. As we live almost completely underground today (and for thousands of years), you won't find any of our corpses or skeletons.
 
Question: You sometimes talk about underground cities and artificial sunlight. Do you mean something like "hollow earth" with this? Is there another sun inside our planet?
 

Answer: No, the planet Earth is not actually completely hollow and there is no other sun inside. This story is ridiculous and not physically possible (even your species should be intelligent enough not to believe this.)
Do you know how much mass the sun must have in order to produce energy and light for a long time through fusion? Do you really think there could be a small active sun inside planet earth?
 
When I talk about our underground home, I'm talking about large cave systems. The caves you discovered near the surface are small compared to the real caves and the huge caves deeper in the earth (at a depth of 2,000 to 8,000 your meters, but connected by many hidden tunnels to the surface or to the surface-near caves) and we live in large and advanced cities and colonies inside such caves.

 
The main areas are outside the Arctic, Antarctica, Inner Asia, North America and Australia. If I'm talking about artificial sunlight in our cities, I'm not referring to the real sun, but to various technological light sources (including gravitational ones) that illuminate caves and tunnels. In every city there are special cave areas and tunnels with strong UV light and we use these places to warm the blood. Furthermore, we also have some surface sunspots in remote areas, especially in America and Australia.


 
Question: Where can we find such a surface - near the entrance to your world?
 
Answer: Do you really think I'm going to tell you their exact location? If you want to find such an entrance, you'll have to search for it yourself (but I advise you not to.) When I surfaced four days ago, I used your entrance about 300 kilometers north of here near the big lake, but I doubt you could find it ( there are only a few entrances in this part of the world - more are farther north and east.)
 
As a little tip: if you're in a narrow cave or tunnel or even what looks like an artificial mine shaft and the deeper you go the smoother the walls appear and if you feel unusually warm air flowing from the depths or if you hear the rushing sound of air currents in a ventilation or elevator shaft, then look for a special kind of artificial and smooth wall somewhere in a cave with a gray metal door.
 
If you could open that door (but I doubt it) you would be in a usually round technical room with ventilation systems and elevators to depth. This is probably an entry into our world. If you've made it to this point, you should know that we are now definitely aware of your presence. You're already in big trouble if you entered the round room, but look for one of the two reptilian symbols on the walls.


If there are no symbols or other symbols, you may be in more trouble than you think, because not every underground installation belongs to our species. Some new tunnel systems are operated by alien races (including enemy races). My general advice if you find yourself in a strange underground installation: run away as fast as you can.
 
Question: You mentioned earlier that you use the name "Lacerta" when you're around people and that you enjoy being in real sunlight on the surface of planet Earth. But how can you be among people? You don't look like us, so everyone will see that you belong to a different species. Why has no one seen and described a being like you if your species has been living together with us on the same planet Earth since our "creation". Can you explain that to me?
 
Answer: First, my species has of course been seen and described (and worshiped) many times in your primitive past, for example in your religious writings like your Christian Bible. You can find descriptions and even simple drawings of us in the southern part of the American continent at various temples.
 
So-called "wise" people from India and from the mountains of Asia have described our species many times in writings, along with other "wise men" from the African continent. I think we are the most mentioned non-human species (maybe next to the "Illojima") in your history.
 
If you don't believe me, look at your history and you will see the truth in my words. Your "great" scientists have called belief in us "superstition" and "religion", and today's "intelligent" people have forgotten our presence on the surface of planet Earth in the past.

 


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APPEARANCE OF A MORROP BEING

The Mochicas considered the "iguana man" to be a powerful figure who helped the deceased descend and act as an intermediary between the world of the living and the dead. Iguanas are considered creatures with special characteristics: due to their ability to live underground, they were considered a contact between the world of the living and the world of the dead or ancestors. According to the stories, Morrop, appearing 1 to 2 times a year, enters this world on the surface of planet Earth through a dimensional portal. In accordance with the yields and/or sacrifices, he gave them knowledge and technology in agriculture, engineering. etc.


 

That being has on its head the INVISIBLE BEING THAT INHABITS THE REPTILIAN (OR HUMAN) BODY.


 
Furthermore, even today our species is sometimes seen by human witnesses in its original form on the surface of planet Earth or in our surface entrances and tunnel systems, but fortunately you and your media have not taken seriously the reports of such "lunatics" (this is good for us and that is why we allow these people to see us as we really are.)
 

Some of my species are also in direct contact with human scientists and politicians from the surface of planet earth, but this is strictly confidential - as you would call it - and none of your public knows anything about it (the issue of these meetings is mainly the impending war with and between alien species and our assistance in this war).
 
There is another explanation for why we can walk among you and why you cannot recognize us: mimicry.
 

The following may again sound unbelievable and even shocking to you, but as you asked, I will explain it to you. I told you earlier that we have more advanced mental abilities than your species and by "more advanced" I mean that we are able to use telepathy and telekinesis from our birth (in fact, mother and newborn child generally communicate telepathically during the first months) without special training how to you need it to activate these parts of your brain to sleep.
 
The structure of our brain is slightly different than yours and our pituitary gland is larger and more active than yours - especially when we are in sunlight. Our own abilities are very strong compared to yours, but weak compared to the "matter-string/bubble" mind powers of some alien species on this planet. I've never been very good at that mental stuff, but we all have these primal abilities and can use them for example for our protection or even to attack.
 
When we are on the surface of planet earth and meet human beings (even a large group of them - no difference. All your minds are as one mind) we are able to "touch" their minds and lead them through telepathy with the command " See us as one of your own species" and the weak human mind will accept this order without recombination and will see us (despite our reptilian appearance) as normal humans.
 
I've done this many times, and you weaklings generally see me as an attractive brown-haired woman, because years ago I created this particular "mimicry image" in my mind, and I can easily bring it into your minds. It took me a while at first to learn how to use mimicry properly, but then it worked almost automatically and I can even walk amongst your group and no one will recognize who I am.
 
It has a simple switch ("See us as we are / See us as we want you to see us") in your consciousness that was put there by the "Illojima" when they created your species and we can use this switch to convince you that you see humans when we you watch (other aliens also use this switch).
 
It's easier than you think. When we have encounters between your species and aliens that look exactly like yours, these aliens used that switch and some of the encounters with human-like aliens can also be explained by encounters with my species.) When I met (EF) at first, me too he saw as a normal human woman and I remember that he was very scared and shocked when I revealed my true appearance to him.
 

Question: Do you really think you can convince me to talk to an attractive brown haired human woman now instead of a reptilian being like you?
 
Answer: Probably, but I don't think so in your particular case. When someone expects to see a human woman instead of me, I can do that without a problem with their mind (even with large groups) because no one expects to see a reptilian woman. But I allowed your mind to see me in my original form from our first meeting onwards and I never put anything into your mind, so you already understood that I am not human. If you tried to change this now, it would probably lead to absolute confusion or unconsciousness, and I don't want to harm you. Like I said, I'm not very good at these things.
 
Question: That is very scary. Can you kill with those abilities?
 
Answer: Yes, but it is forbidden. This does not mean that it has not been done in previous times.
 
Question: Do both sexes have these abilities?
 
Answer: Yes.
 
Question: What about photos? How do you see yourself in photos?
 
Answer: This is a stupid question. In the photographs, I see myself as a reptilian being, because I cannot influence the photograph or the camera itself, but only the photographer's mind. If he or she developed the film and showed the photo to others, they would see me in my original form. This is why our species is forbidden to be filmed or photographed and must avoid any camera on the surface (it is very difficult and in the past we have sometimes been filmed without our knowledge, especially by some of your governments and secret agencies.)
 
Question: What other orders can your species have? introduce into our minds? Something like "Serve Us" or "Listen"?
 
Answer: Again this is a strange question. We're not your enemies (most of us aren't) so why would we?
To answer your question: it depends on the strength of the human mind and on the strength of the sending reptile. There is no "Serve Us" or "Serve Me" switch in your mind, so it is much harder to elicit such a command. If the human mind and consciousness is weak and the reptilian inducer is experienced in these things and has been in the sun for several hours before trying to do this, then it could probably work for a period of time.
 
They have secret teachings about such things, but I never learned anything about it. I use my primary abilities for mimicry and communication with my kind, and sometimes for other private things, but I have never used them to harm people or their minds. I would appreciate it if you could end this thread here.
 
Question: Last question: You said earlier that you can hide your UFOs? Are you using the same abilities for this?
 
Answer: Yes, but on a technical basis. Inside each craft is a powerful device that can send an artificial signal to your minds to convince you that you see nothing but the sky itself, or that you see normal craft as airplanes instead of our ships.
This is not often used, as we avoid human publics when moving in the atmosphere. If you are able to see our "UFOs", it means that the device is either malfunctioning or deactivated for some reason.

The camouflage effect didn't work in the photos - to answer this possible question of yours in advance - but why would anyone take a picture of the sky when they couldn't see anything unusual there.
 
By the way, most of the surface entry points to our tunnels are also hidden by such a device and your species will generally only see normal cave walls instead of doors. That's one of the reasons I said I doubt you'll be able to find such a secret door to our world (but it's happened several times in the past.)
 
Question: Go back to your history and ours. You mentioned the "Illojima" race that created our human race. Where did they come from and what did they look like? What exactly happened when they arrived? Are they our "God"?
 
Answer: "Illojim" came from this universe, from the star system you call "Aldebaran" on your charts. They were a very tall humanoid species with usually blond hair and very white skin (they avoided sunlight, as it hurt their skin and eyes. This was absolutely incredible for a sun loving species like us).
At first they seemed intelligent and peaceful and we started more or less friendly communication with them, but later they showed their true intentions and plans: they wanted to evolve monkeys into a new race and we were a disturbing factor for them on their new planet Earth and in the zoo garden. At first they captured about 10,000 or maybe even 20,000 of your ape ancestors and they left the planet for about a hundred years.

When they came back, they brought back your (now more human) ancestors. Then they left Earth again for several thousand years and primitive proto-humans lived together with us without major problems (they were just afraid of our aircraft and technology).
The "Illojim" learned their mind and improved their brain and body structure and now they could use tools and fire. "Illojim" returned within 23,000 years seven times and accelerated the rate of evolution of some of your species. You must understand that you are not the first human civilization on planet earth.

 
The first advanced humans (who lived at the same time as less developed proto-humans, because the "Illojim" experimented with different speeds and stages of evolution) with technology and speech existed about 700,000 years ago on this planet Earth. The scientists don't understand this, because they only found the bones of protohumans and some primitive cave drawings showing advanced humans and flying devices.)
 
This genetically advanced human race lived together with us, but they avoided contact with my species, because the "Illojima" Masters are warned them with the deceptive aim that we are evil beings and that we are lying to them.
 
Well, after a few centuries the aliens decided to die out their first creation and they accelerated the evolution of a second and better series of tests and so on and so forth. The truth is that your modern human civilization is not the first on this planet Earth, but the seventh.
The buildings of the first races are lost, but the fifth civilization was the one that built the large quadrangular structures that you now call the "Egyptian pyramids" about 75,000 years ago (your Egyptians just found those great ancient pyramids in the sand and tried unsuccessfully to build similar structures) , and the sixth civilization was the one that built the cities whose ruins you can find today under the sea in the so-called Bimini area about 16,000 years ago.
 
The last created creation of the seventh race - of your series - was made only 8,500 years ago and this is the only creation you can remember that your religious scriptures refer to. You rely on archeological and paleontological artifacts that show you a wrong and short past, but how do you know anything about the six civilizations before. And if you find evidence for their existence, you deny and misinterpret the facts. This is part programming of your mind and part pure ignorance. In the following, I will only tell you about your creations, because the six previous mankinds have been lost and therefore should not concern you.

 

  

HEAD SHAPES of created creations from your series of the seventh race excavated in Vinca near Belgrade and the LAR figure excavated in Kosovo, the figure excavated in Butmir near Sarajevo, was made only 8,500 years ago.


There was a long war between us and the "Illojima", as well as between certain groups of the "Illojima" themselves, because many of them were of the opinion that the creation of the human species again and again on this planet made no real sense. The last battles in this war were fought about 5,000 years ago in orbit and on the surface.
 
The aliens used powerful sonic weapons to destroy our underground cities, but on the other hand we managed to destroy many of their surface installations and bases in space.
 
The people of your series were very frightened when they observed our battles and wrote it down in the form of religious myths (their minds were unable to understand what was really happening.) "Illojim" - who appeared as "gods" for the sixth and the seventh race - told them that it was a war between good and evil and that they were the good race and we were the evil race.
 
This certainly depends on the point of view. It was our planet Earth before they arrived and before they began their evolutionary project with your species. In my opinion, it was our right to fight for our planet earth.
 
It was exactly 4,943 years ago - according to your time scale - that the Illojim again left planet Earth for unknown reasons (this is a very important date for us, as many of our historians have called it a victory.)
 
The fact is that we do not know what really happened . happened. The "Illojima" were disappearing day by day, all gone with their ships and we found most of their surface installations destroyed by them. Humans were alone and your civilization developed.
 
Many of us have been in contact with certain (southern) tribes of your species in the following centuries and have managed to convince some of them that we are not the "Evil" that the aliens wanted us to believe. During the time from 4,900 years ago to the present day, many other alien species have arrived on planet Earth (some of them using the old learning and programming of your mind and "playing" God for you again), but the "Illojim" themselves have never returned.

They left planet Earth some thousand years earlier as well, so we expect their return one day in the future to end their project or maybe even the seventh race to die out, but we don't really know what happened to them (to answer this question of yours in advance ).
 
Your current civilization knows nothing about your real origins, about your real past, about your real world and universe, and you know very little about us and our past.
 
And you don't know anything about the things that are coming in the near future. As long as you do not understand and believe my words - I
am telling you the truth, we are not your enemies - as long as there is danger to your kind.
 
Your enemies are already here and you did not understand. Open your eyes or you will soon be in big trouble. If you didn't believe anything I told you before, then you should really believe this and remember it.
 
Question: Why do you think I don't trust you?
Answer: I have a certain feeling that you do not believe me, despite the fact that I am sitting here in front of you. Everything I've told you in the last two hours is the absolute true truth about our world.
 
Question: How many alien species are currently active on Earth?
 
Answer: As far as we know 14 species. 11 from this universe, 2 from another "bubble" and 1 very advanced from a completely different plane of the universe. Don't ask me about the names, because almost all of them are unpronounceable to you, eight of them are unpronounceable even to us. Most of the species - especially the more advanced ones - just study you like animals and aren't much of a threat to you and us and some we work with, but three species are hostile, including one that has been in contact with some of your governments and traded their technology for copper and other important things that betrayed your species.
 
There was and still is a "cold war" between two of these enemy races for the last 73 years and the third species seemed to be the "winner" in this futile struggle.
 
We expect an even more "hot" war between them and you in the near future (I'd say within the next 10 or 20 years) and are concerned about that development. Lately there have been some rumors about a new, fifteenth species that arrived on planet Earth only 3-4 years ago, but we know nothing about their intentions and have not been in contact with them until now. Maybe the rumors are wrong.
 
Question: What do the hostile alien races want?
 
Answer: Various raw materials, including copper for their technology, your water (or rather the hydrogen in your water, which is the source of energy in advanced fusion processes), and certain chemical elements in your air. Furthermore, the two species are also interested in your body, in your human tissue and blood, because their own genetic structure is defective by bad evolution and radiation (as far as we know) and they need intact nerves from your species and from animals to repair their genetics anew and over and over again, but they're not actually able to repair the defects completely because their DNA and your DNA aren't completely compatible (my own species is absolutely incompatible with them, so we don't care much about them) and they try to make more compatible crosses between you and them using artificial insemination and artificial wombs. We assume that the coming war between the three races or between you and one or all of them will be fought for raw material, hydrogen, air and DNA.
 
Question: Is this the reason for the "kidnapping"?
 
Answer: Partially, especially when the aliens took your egg and sperm samples. Sometimes the abductors belong to a different and more advanced race and just want to study your body and your mind (which is more interesting to some than your solid body) as they would study a primitive animal. As I said, the three alien species are hostile, which means they don't care about your fate or your life, and the people they "kidnapped" very rarely returned alive. If someone can report an abduction, that means in my opinion that he or she hasn't encountered one of the aggressive species or that he or she is very, very lucky to be alive. Advanced and "friendly" races also sometimes took egg and sperm samples, but for different reasons.
 
Question: You said that there are only 14 active species on planet Earth. But why describe people who have seen extraterrestrial beings of so many different and bizarre kinds of them?
 
Answer: I think I have already answered this question. As I said, most alien races have much more advanced mental abilities than you or even me (there is only one alien race completely without such abilities).
 
They are able to appear in your mind and memory as whatever they want and this projected "image" has nothing to do with their actual appearance. Remember them as normal people or gray gnomes or even extremely bizarre animals because they want you to remember that or sometimes they want you to completely forget anything about meeting them.
 
Another example: you can, for example, remember that you were just in a normal one of your human hospitals and some doctors were examining you and you don't think any further about what happened to you (maybe until you discover that there is no hospital down the street if you assumed that) but they actually examined you in one of their labs.In this case, you cannot rely on your mind.
 
They appear to you in various guises to confuse you and to make the so-called witnesses of the abduction who could remember the event - or who believe they can - laugh in public and, as far as we know, they are successful.
 
Trust me, there are only 14 alien species on this planet Earth and only eight of them are currently abducting humans (again as far as we know.) Also, not all of your "abductees" are one and some of the aliens in their reports are actually just imagination or lies.


Answer: How can we protect ourselves from this influence on our mind?
 
Question: I don't know. I doubt you can, because your mind is like an open book to read and write to almost every species I know. This is partly the fault of the "Illojim" themselves, because they built or rather misconstructed (partially on purpose) your mind and your consciousness without the right protective mechanisms.
 
If you are aware that someone is trying to manipulate your mind, you can concentrate only on that suspicion and try to analyze your every thought and memory.
 
Very important: do not close your eyes (this would lead to a different form of brain waves that are easier to access) and do not sit or lie down to rest.
 
If you stay awake during the first few minutes, you may be able to try to filter out other thoughts and waves in your brain and the one sending the information (the inducer) will give up after a few minutes if it is not successful because it will start to hurt his or her brain. This is very difficult and certainly painful and can hurt you, so you better not try to resist, but that would be the only option you have. However, you can only attempt this with weaker types, not stronger ones.

 
Question: What do you mean by "one species comes from a completely different plane-level of the universe"?
 
Answer: Before I can properly explain it to you, you have to be able to understand the universe and that would mean perhaps weeks of useless teaching of your mind (including removing some barriers), and by teaching I don't just mean teaching words.
 
I said it with your word "ordinary" or "level" because again you don't have a better word in your vocabulary and dimension would be absolutely wrong in this case (it's quite wrong even for another "bubble") because dimension can not exist without plane . If you were a species that lived in another plane or above and if you could also enter the plane without technology so that your body is not made of the kind of matter you know, then you would be the most powerful being you can imagine.
 
This very advanced race that I mentioned developed outside of this world and they actually evolved over billions of years. They could destroy all of you and us and everything with just one thought. We have been in contact with them only 3 times in our entire history, because their interest in our and your planet Earth is different from the interests of all other races. They are definitely not a danger to you or us.
 
Question: What will happen when the war starts?
 
Answer: This is a difficult question to answer. It depends on the enemy race and their tactics. "War" is not always the primitive thing you people mean by the word "War" can be fought on different levels.
 
One option they have is to "destroy" your social system by influencing political leaders, another is to use advanced weapon systems that can cause earthquakes or volcanic eruptions or other disasters (including weather disasters) that may seem natural to you.
 
The special copper fusion fields I mentioned earlier can affect your global weather. I don't think they will attack planet Earth directly before human civilization weakens, because even you have the ability to destroy their system (but not much.) Let me say that we are not quite sure if it will really be that "hot" "war yet in the coming years. I don't want to talk about this anymore.
 
Question: This is the end of the interview. Do you want to say a last sentence or message?
 
Answer: Open your eyes and see and watch. Don't just believe your flawed history or your scientists or politicians. Some of them know the truth about various things, but do not inform the public to avoid confusion and panic. I don't think your species is as bad as some of my species think and it would be a shame to see your end. That's all I can say. Go through your world with your eyes open and you will see - or maybe not. Your species is very ignorant.
 
Question: Do you think anyone will believe this interview to be true?
 
Answer: No, but it is an interesting experiment for my social studies. We will meet again in a few months and then you will tell me what happened after my message was published. Maybe there is hope for your kind.
 
Be healthy Rudolf Bošnjak.